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EyesOpen's avatar

You nailed the movement that captured my daughtes, who are millennials as well as several other women relatives and friends in my life. "Dark woke" fits them well. "This shift in ideology leads to identifying enemies and setting boundaries for exclusion and punishment."

My daughters have identified me as an ememy, set boundaries, eventually excluded (cancelled me) and then act like they are serving up valid punishment because I don't believe in their new ideologies.

So now I write articles about estrangement unraveling in my family, and so many others, resulting from this sector of "dark woke" women. 3 decades of more of a close relationship has been thrown out because of this mindset.

I didn't have a word for undersanding and naming what was happening, and now I do. I appreciate you writing this article.

Brigid LaSage's avatar

Men do not like double standards? First I've heard of it. I agree with a lot here, but I don't believe women are leading this. Women seek male approval and many, many liberal and radical men are leading the woke charge, from politicians to comedians. Women are social enforcers, true, and social media has weaponized those skills like never before but leftism isn't a feminine invention. Also women didn't reject the safety of family life; men started trading in their wives for younger models during the sexual revolution and family became a more insecure and risky proposition than independence. Porn and cannabis addled sports gamblers aren't exactly father knows best material. Plenty of blame on all sides. We need to re-envision social norms that enable safe and stable families, not harken back to myths that led us here.

MadeinAmerica's avatar

This is a brilliant article . In Cali the dark woke hysteria is at a fever pitch 🤣the moral certainty is the part I find so offensive. ICE riots are a perfect example. I have a small farm where we used to be able to afford to pay migrants a living wage , but because the border was blown wide open all the bigger farms are able to get as many desperate slaves as they want and abuse them , pay them nothing because it is subsidized by taxpayers. But all the California women I know will have you believing in the dignity of work is a bad thing. That ICE detention centers are prisons ( they have WiFi , access to computers, dental and eye care , Xbox, laundry , etc) and going back to your home is a punishment

Harold Masters's avatar

"Right-wing critics of dark woke accuse them of replacing liberalism with authoritarianism and persuasion with coercion." - Authoritarianism and coercion? Those are rightwing strategies, ladies!

"Regarding their social points of view, these women face a later marriage or no marriage, higher education with debt, career pressure, unstable relationships, and men disengaging from them. These factors have led to status frustration, loss of patience, and political views shaped by insecurity." - You really think that? Take a look at the 4b movement, and then compare it to the men's "loneliness epidemic". Women would much rather be with no man than a lousy man, and now that women can have careers and well paid jobs, they can.

"The public notices this change in women’s ideology because the activists have moved from empathy-centric to gatekeepers of a rigid ideology." - Too many women have exhibited Suicidal Empathy for far too long. Hence why so many women end up with men who murder them. Good thing women are finally wising up, and leaving when the first red flags show.

"The split between men and women on ideology appears larger than it is because men moved to the right, replacing moral signaling spaces with a more rational perspective." - Nothing's more rational than a man who kills a woman for not wanting to date him, or for saying no, or for wanting to leave him if he becomes abusive. There are stories on the news every day about men killing their wives and ex wives. I guess anger and hate are "rational" and don't count as emotions to men.

"The psychological component of liberal women’s behavior is the sad part. Their all-out drive for their perfect ideology has placed limitations on their future happiness by disregarding the most important human support system, the family unit." - And of course it boils down to what it always does: women are not settling for the men they once would have settled for, back before women didn't earn their own money and were financially dependent on men. Poor quality men hate this, so they try to make women think a husband and kids will make them happier. But guess what? Any survey that's conducted by a neutral organization (one that isn't religious or political) indicates that women with no husbands and kids are happier than women who have them. The truth is that married men are happier than unmarried men, so men are desperate to get women to think that any man is better than no man.

By the way, before anybody accuses me of being woke, please refer to my Substack posts and responses to other people's posts.