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Crimson's avatar

Pretty clear that if the flags were going up for a left-wing cause, you'd be on board. Some people are hopelessly ideologically captured.

Reminds me of the trucker protest here in Canada. If the racket had been for a left-wing cause, the same people who complained about the noise would have been fine.

Learning that your politics are not shared by everyone is disturbing to complacent elitists. Good!

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Steven's avatar

So... People have legitimate complaints about the level of immigration, the abdication of their national sovereignty, and quite frankly the criminality of some of these immigrants (isn't yours the country that had that horrific "grooming gang" scandal your government tried to bury for years?) and your response is to be ashamed that they're... Hoisting flags in peaceful protest of outright illegal activity and unresponsive government?

You've got something to be ashamed of, but it certainly isn't them.

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Deb Hill's avatar

Oh, my. Look at all those racists flying the flags of oppression. Consider the rich culture that these oppressed people bring to the table. Child brides, sharia laws, grooming gangs honor killings, and many more culturally enriched ideological beliefs. Keep complaining about some made up oppression, because when Islam takes over it will be a true oppression.

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Nobody Bunchanumbers's avatar

I love patriotism! Unless I think I can imagine some wrong-think from the patriots, of course.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Trying to make sense of things, I read Karl Popper's book "The Open Society and Its Enemies." I appreciate it was an honest attempt at understanding history and suggesting a better course, but it was obvious that it was a man of Jewish heritage rightfully disturbed at the events unfolding. In the edition I read, Soros wrote the opening. Soros used a book that should have been read in the context of WWII where the horrific horrors of Stalin were unknown, sometimes by the intentional acts by journalists and others. It has become a playbook to conflate patriotism and nationalism and meritocracy with tyranny. Yes, there are too many boats just as there were too many people coming into the US. It was a playbook to destroy the concept of what a nation means. But people need a sense of identity just as they need a common set of values. Under Bush and others, the US exported the notion of nation building along with our values. It failed and I fear karma swung it back in our face.

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Jim McNeill  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿's avatar

If you’ve got a problem with our flag, that’s a *you* problem

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