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Sam LaCrosse's avatar

Boy, sad reality here- thanks for this โค๏ธ

Lj Priest's avatar

My pleasure. It's a very sad reality that is climbing in both men and women due to the online world. It's easier than ever to forge faux connections with a swipe of the finger. I hope these pieces help someone...

Sam LaCrosse's avatar

They will โค๏ธ

Warmek's avatar

Did "Tim" get a vasectomy? His missus might be concerned about a number 7 kid if not, which could significantly impact her interest in intimacy. Also, good to know that other people out there are making up for my lack of doing my duty in propagating the species. ๐Ÿคฃ

That line you had about couples ending up as just roommates hit hard, it's one of the things my wife said to me before she became my ex-wife. ๐Ÿ˜•

Lj Priest's avatar

The vasectomy bit made me laugh. Then the roommate line stopped being funny. Iโ€™m sorry thatโ€™s what she said before she left. Thatโ€™s a hard last memory to carry. Thank you for telling me it hit. <3

Warmek's avatar

I mean... That's *one* of the things she said in the conversation that occurred after she told me that she still loved me, but was no longer *in love* with me. Though that conversation occurred a year prior to the one wherein I started off with something about how the things we were trying in order to resolve our relationship issues weren't working, intending to continue onto, "and so I'd like us to work together on coming up with something different to try", but which she cut off with (roughly, not a precise quote), "I agree. We should get divorced." And a month later, we were.

So, *that's* the actual "last memory", FWIW. I mean, there are obviously other things from the "winding down" stage of everything: Getting actually divorced, selling the house, and so forth. But that's the last memory of anything that could be considered "our relationship".

We started dating when I was 19, a month before my 20th birthday, and got divorced when I was 38, a month before my 39th birthday. 19 years -- half my life -- and the half I remember better at that! We're a month away from the 11th year since the divorce, and it still occasionally catches at me, like a hangnail snagging on something.

I honestly don't know if I'll ever *truly* "recover". The hurt lessens, but as for whether it'll actually go *away*, I cannot say. Maybe in another 8 years, once we've been apart for as long as we were together. *shrug*

Warmek's avatar

> Science backs it: Men need physical intimacy like plants need sunlight; withhold it, and they wilt into depressed husks.

*nod*

Since said divorce, sometimes I just snuggle with my friends. They all understand how at least some measure of physical contact is necessary for survival. We're related to the other great apes, after all, and they all have patterns of social grooming. It'd be absurd to think we upright hairless ones wouldn't need that as well. It's obviously not the same as actual bedroom activities, but it helps keep me sane. Part of it is just knowing that someone else cares enough about that problem to do something about it, too.

Kathy Christian's avatar

She could get an IUD if she didn't want another kid.

andy's avatar

Out of the same appreciation I subscribed before even finishing reading your essay.

What the men are actually describing, & acting out โ€”& the women, tooโ€” are the untrue stories they have been steeped in & still believe are true โ€ฆ or still believe should be true โ€ฆ & still want, insistently, to be true, out of force of habit/uation.

Hope springs eternal the psychological operations machinery.

(Who builds, maintains, the machines? Not the ordinary people who are run through them as fuel & lubrication.)

Youโ€™ve heard, or read, David Foster Wallaceโ€™s Kenyon College commencement speech, โ€œThis Is Waterโ€?

โ€œGreetings parents and congratulations to Kenyonโ€™s graduating class of 2005. There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says โ€œMorning, boys. Howโ€™s the water?โ€ And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes โ€œWhat the hell is water?โ€

***

What happened, as recounted-understood by one party, is part-osophy.

The rest of, or important more of, what happened โ€”including the other partyโ€™s recounting-understandingโ€” is typically called the why part-osophy.

Phil(in the blanks or, commonly, redactions)osophy to the โ€œrescueโ€ โ€”identificationโ€” of the elephant the blind wise wo/men insisted was many things โ€ฆ but not an elephant.

(You know the JG Saxe poem?)

Pattern recognition can be โ€”isโ€” a philosophy problem.

Physiology problems can be โ€”areโ€” too.

Seeing that can pay regenerative soil-building dividends.

And/but philosophies-seen can be, usually are, imported from right off the shelves.

Like water, air food, etc. are imported.

The wet cement imports are pour-internalized into children-forms.

The internalization process rotes as the years perpetually perish.

(Thatโ€™s the be careful part of that quote because it is our time โ€”our passage through timeโ€” rather than time itself, that slip-slides away โ€ฆ & bothers people โ€ฆ โ€œbut notโ€ the billionaires who are busy attaining โ€”โ€œswipingโ€โ€” immortality.)

Autopilot drives, is forgotten for granted, & unquestioned.

(The What About Bob lashed to the mast scene: โ€œIโ€™m a sailor!โ€)

The assumed to be driver-managed properties of the driven driver conflict with, contradict, the scenery the passenger who tells himself heโ€™s driving is being driven through versus the solidified mindโ€™s eye scenes that s/he anticipated-imported-expected.

Comprehension does speak to the whys of the before & after relationships of exploding Pinto gas tanks, painting Grendel the villain for heroes to foil, & the unreasonable expectation that alternatives do not exclude & so โ€œof courseโ€ all can be had simultaneously-voraciously โ€ฆ & should be.

(And when it canโ€™t, the Iโ€™m owed* victimology kicks in & allโ€™s fair in love & war is re-revealed, too.)

โ€œSwipeโ€ used to slang โ€œsteal.โ€

Well, it still does.

The bases are stolen-loaded. Always have been.

From within first, & then from without.

The old WC Fields line-observation: โ€œYou canโ€™t cheat an honest man.โ€ Or woman.

Bullies from pulpits repetitiously tell the wet cement stories that harden into โ€œrealitiesโ€ patterns that do not actually exist โ€ฆ except to confound patterns-seekers โ€ฆ especially the pattern seekers who donโ€™t want to work too hard, donโ€™t want to chip out the cement-packed galoshes, overcoats & baggage they were weighed down with.

(The evil Count Adehmarโ€™s lines from A Knightโ€™s Tale:

โ€œYou have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly beat me?โ€)

And I have never experienced, or seen, bullies amenable to being communicated out of their driven-driver compulsions, either.

But that also goes for masochists. Or โ€œcodependents.โ€ Etc.

This is an ecology problem. And a biology problem.

The biology begets the ecology.

Fractal. Feeding forward, & back.

This is a pattern of purposely degraded ecology/biology problem.

But down at the level of all us individuals itโ€™s a comprehension problem.

The reasons cheaters (youโ€™ve seen what the college cheats are up to with AI) give typically-never cover all the bases.

And that puts them out at, or before, home โ€ฆ & hearth โ€ฆ where the heart is supposed to be, should be, would best be, but rarely is โ€ฆ & thatโ€™s by Count Adhemar design.

Seeming โ€œasideโ€ my half-brother shared what his father, my stepfather, told him was his reason for cheating on our mother, back in the 60โ€™s & 70โ€™s โ€ฆ & it didnโ€™t matter/horn climb the pattern one bit, either:

You decide. S/he decides. Then one โ€”often insisting the otherโ€” does not abide. Then the other justifies not abiding โ€ฆ or not abiding even more than before.

Comprehension, MIA from the start โ€”from before the startโ€” compounds the misses, the trespasses & the reactions.

The anti-miracle of leveraged compound interest on fiat โ€”counterfeitโ€” stor(i)es of value & mediums of exchange is the out of control locus/ts of control.

Whatโ€™s the fraud up to in this corner of the anti-ecology? $40 trillion?

Unfunded liabilities are multiples of that.

And the $ symbol doesnโ€™t tally the actual carnage of all the โ€œpretendโ€ โ€” the deceit, the appetite disorder.

The pre/text books are cooked.

Hereโ€™s the guy who played Bob, uncooking the books, in his best scene, ever. :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT4rsObXgc

*The Frog & the Scorpion scene from Animal House:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LARx7M9s15w

Wendell Berry passed away 8/31.

Paul Kingsnorth selected & introduced some of Berryโ€™s essays in The World-Ending Fire - The Essential Wendell Berry.

Chapter one of The Unsettling of America is one of those essays.

Hereโ€™s a bit, link to the rest below it:

"It seems likely that all the โ€œmovementsโ€ of recent years have been representing various claims that nurture has to make against exploitation. The womenโ€™s movement, for example, when its energies are most accurately placed, is arguing the cause of nurture; other times it is arguing the right of women to be exploiters โ€” which men have no right to be. The exploiter is clearly the prototype of the โ€œmasculineโ€ man โ€” the wheeler-dealer whose โ€œpracticalโ€ goals require the sacrifice of flesh, feeling, and principle. The nurturer, on the other hand, has always passed with ease across the boundaries of the so-called sexual roles. Of necessity and without apology, the preserver of seed, the planter, becomes midwife and nurse. Breeder is always metamorphosing into brooder and back again. Over and over again, spring after spring, the questing mind, idealist and visionary, must pass through the planting to become nurturer of the real. The farmer, sometimes known as husbandman, is by definition halfmother; the only question is how good a mother he or she is. And the land itself is not mother or father only, but both. Depending on crop and season, it is at one time receiver of seed, bearer and nurturer of young; at another, raiser of seed-stalk, bearer and shedder of seed. And in response to these changes, the farmer crosses back and forth from one zone of spousehood to another, first as planter and then as gatherer. Farmer and land are thus involved in a sort of dance in which the partners are always at opposite sexual poles, and the lead keeps changing; the farmer, as seed-bearer, causes growth; the land, as seed-bearer, causes the harvest.

The exploitive always involves the abuse or the perversion of nurture and ultimately its destruction. Thus, we saw how far the exploitive revolution had penetrated the official character when our recent secretary of agriculture remarked that โ€œFood is a weapon.โ€ This was given a fearful symmetry indeed when, in discussing the possible use of nuclear weapons, a secretary of defense spoke of โ€œpalatableโ€ levels of devastation. Consider the associations that have since ancient times clustered around the idea of food โ€” associations of mutual care, generosity, neighborliness, festivity, communal joy, religious ceremony โ€” and you will see that these two secretaries represent a cultural catastrophe. The concerns of farming and those of war, once thought to be diametrically opposed, have become identical. Here we have an example of men who have been made vicious, not presumably by nature or circumstance, but by their values."

https://kyl.neocities.org/books/[SOC%20BER]%20the%20unsettling%20of%20america.pdf

WW1 era bone is connected to the WWW era bone: How Yaโ€™ Gonna Keep โ€˜Em Down On The Farm After Theyโ€™ve Seen โ€”been shownโ€” The Paree Pattern?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Ya_Gonna_Keep_%27em_Down_on_the_Farm_(After_They%27ve_Seen_Paree)%3F

โ€œFarmโ€ as Berry reveals. Connection. Integration. Synthesis. Wholeness. Sovereignty. Independent-Interdependence.

The divide & conquer divorcing has been chewing people up & spitting them out for a long time.

Itโ€™s a trick.

Comprehension.

Thank you.

Lj Priest's avatar

That was a lot of water to take in before coffee.

Youโ€™re right that people are running old stories on autopilot. Iโ€™d only add the part the philosophy sometimes skips: the story gets a body. Weโ€™re not just steeped in myths. Weโ€™re steeped in our own chemistry.

An affair, a secret login, even the fantasy of being chosen again, isnโ€™t only a narrative problem. Itโ€™s a dosing problem. Novelty hits dopamine. Secrecy tightens the loop. The almost-caught feeling is a stimulant. Then oxytocin tries to glue the whole mess to a person who was never supposed to be glue. When the supply cuts off, it isnโ€™t merely โ€œcomprehension arriving.โ€ Itโ€™s withdrawal. Irritability, rumination, the sudden conviction that lifeโ€™s gray cardboard, the itch to go back and โ€œjust check.โ€ Same machinery as any other habit that taught the nervous system a shortcut to feeling alive.

So yes. Weโ€™re junkies for our own bodies. The wet cement isnโ€™t only stories poured into children. Itโ€™s also receptors learning what to expect. After enough repetitions, the body votes. It votes for the pattern that used to work, even when the patternโ€™s wrecking the house.

Thatโ€™s why the reasons never cover all the bases. A reasonโ€™s a press secretary. The junkieโ€™s in the basement, counting the hours since the last hit of being wanted.

Berryโ€™s nurture versus exploitation lands better from there. Exploitation isnโ€™t only a cultural style. Itโ€™s what a hungry nervous system does when itโ€™s been trained to treat other people as the vending machine. Nurtureโ€™s slower chemistry. It doesnโ€™t spike as hard. It also doesnโ€™t leave you rattling the cage at 2 a.m. because the story ran out.

I can see the elephant. I can also see the drip.

Thank you for writing. And for subscribing before you finished.

andy's avatar

Ainโ€™t Them Bodies Saints (a pretty good movie about โ€œBonnie & Clydeโ€ bodies in motion) & Ainโ€™t all us Saints, Boondock & urban alike, mostly water?

Well, structured water, apparently; a gel.

Preferably gel from a good well โ€”tap water isnโ€™t about muni/ficence.

(I know.

And that many canโ€™t sit still for the first, abridged, strangle-โ€œeditedโ€ edition of Stranger In A Strange Land, & all that Water Brotherhood stuff, let alone the longer complete original Heinleinโ€™s widow got marketed.

Kudos appreciation for not flouncing the โ€œTL;DRโ€ affirmative action handicapped license plate that so clogs the roads anymore.)

Yes, agreed: The body.

I alluded to that & I donโ€™t minimize it. Iโ€™ve got one of my own, which is to say its got me.

These bodies of ours are not imperviously sealed bobbers floating in culture seas dirty with myths & other substances of influence, though.

Chemical reactions, exo or endo, is part of the explanation of motives, motivations, but itโ€™s not a sealed justification or defense for whatever actions are let fly due to those drug-stoked (or drug-like stokings of) motivations.

If it feels good, do it (even โ€œin the roadโ€ ~ Beatles) is an ethos Iโ€™ve seen, experienced, crash & burn.

And Iโ€™ve read about hedonismโ€™s historical booms & busts, too.

Extremes that continuously recycle into old-is-new-again are โ€œWhat weโ€™ve got here is โ€ฆ failure to communicate.โ€

(The Captain was a rigid grammarian out of the Hemingway school & Cool Hand Luke was Thomas Wolfe expressive โ€ฆ & much more comprehensive, but still, missed it by a significant margin).

Which rounds bases back to the thing whose seasons are spread far, & thin: comprehension.

Or apprehension.

An apprehended marshmallow in the hand is not worth the prospect of a second marshmallow โ€”nor even a guaranteed oneโ€” in the bush because the second one has to be waited for for a few minutes worth of seconds.

Canโ€™t wait, a lot of kids.

Or maybe merely โ€œcanโ€™t.โ€

โ€œHow can you have your pudding if you donโ€™t eat your meat?โ€ ~ Pink Floyd panders to the pink-cheeked children

Monkey see, monkey do.

What saturates the sights? And the exhibitions?

Sex, for one thing.

Would you say sex, the subject-predicate of it, is saturated with understanding, comprehension?

I wouldnโ€™t.

Janisโ€™s cover of Kristoffersonโ€™s Me & Bobby McGee was superior. Her rendition reached number one in โ€™71.

Posthumously.

Janis ODโ€™d on heroin in โ€™70.

โ€œFeeling good was good enough for me & my Bobby McGee โ€ฆโ€

No, not enough. Incomplete. Imbalanced.

Appetite disorders ensue.

I mentioned Paul Kingsnorth.

I crossed his path via Iain McGilchrist.

The latter steeps-emphasizes the order of things brain-hemispherical that is all too generally out of order.

LH dominates when its actual biological role is as Emissary to the Master RH.

The martinet Captain has got comprehensive Luke in chains.

I think too that a lot of the music of the (hemi)spheres is stunted โ€”thatโ€™s what domestication is, does, is aboutโ€” & is the easiest of pickings for โ€œhigher upโ€ the high-er-archy LH domination.

So & thus Why Donโ€™t We Do It In The Road?

And so & thus Paul, who once upon a time did โ€œTaxman,โ€ โ€œbecomesโ€ Sir Paul.

โ€œDesiring a thing cannot make you have it.โ€

Is it corollary that faking it never actually does make it?

Is the village mostly front-to-back solid, or is it more Potemkin?

What do you think of this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDVD3YTRAV8

Lj Priest's avatar

Agreed on the body: chemistry can explain a motive without licensing whatever the motive does next. โ€œFeels goodโ€ is a weather report, not a verdict, and Joplin is a rough exhibit; the line landed, the life didnโ€™t. McGilchristโ€™s emissary-turned-martinet is a useful picture for the same failure: the part that files, ranks, and canโ€™t wait has the comprehensive part in chains, then calls the arrangement realism. Wanting it, or knighting it, still doesnโ€™t make the village load-bearing.

I donโ€™t know the clip well enough to judge the scene on one pass.

Also, and I say this with affection: you are medically incapable of pith. I asked my brain for a short reply and it came back with a gel-water prologue, a Heinlein footnote, and a Potemkin village. Pretty sure it caught it from you, lol

groundedinreal's avatar

Excellent Article.

A lot of Truth here.

Lj Priest's avatar

Tysm. I wish we didn't need to write these things, but if I can help one marriage, it's worth it. ๐Ÿ™

Dan L Field's avatar

We are not in disagreement.

Lj Priest's avatar

Apologies. I didnโ€™t feel that we were, but intent is often lost in text.

Dan Field's avatar

My guess is that 50% of the time itโ€™s estrogen that robs the relationships of intimacy.

Lj Priest's avatar

Quite possibly. I know that lack of communication definitely did. I also know that Viagra actually works for women, yet they refuse to market it to women and instead came out with what I consider to be glorified antidepressants messing with neurotransmitters.

Because I spent over 15 yrs in biotech in the stock market I know the shenanigans of drug companies.

So, if we combine these two things together, imagine how many marriages could be saved if they both came together to solve the physical and emotional problems instead of becoming sullen, shutting down and straying.

Dan L Field's avatar

Actually, estrogen plus testosterone. Without these life/gender affirming hormones in near youthful quantities, the spouse just doesn't care enough to try. Did you know that on a mg basis, a premenopausal woman has MORE testosterone than estrogen?

Lj Priest's avatar

Thatโ€™s a real stat, just not the whole picture.

If you convert the units, early in the cycle a woman can have more testosterone than estradiol in her blood. Midcycle she often makes more estrogen. Women do make more androgens as a group than estradiol. Thatโ€™s different from โ€œmore testosterone than estrogen all month.โ€

Milligrams also arenโ€™t how those hormones work. Estrogen is potent at very low levels, and some testosterone gets converted into estrogen. Low hormones can flatten desire. They donโ€™t by themselves mean someone stopped caring, and they donโ€™t replace the harder conversation about the marriage.

A womanโ€™s physical battles donโ€™t replace the conversation and itโ€™s sloppy to put it all on menopause and hormones.

What would happen if husbands acknowledged the physical drawbacks and had the conversation with their wives and offered support? I think itโ€™s human nature to want to point to one thing, but humans are messy and biology is too, so itโ€™s not a one size fits all kinda thing. We still come back to lack of communication being the underlying barrier to solving these roadblocks.

~Signed a menopausal woman, lol

Warmek's avatar

As for Viagra, my guess would be that Eli Lilly isn't "refusing" to market it towards women out of any sense of prudishness, but rather are quailing before the gimlet eye of the FDA in not doing so. It isn't as though drug companies aren't known for being staffed by folks who'd sell their own mothers as discount pork to make a buck.

Lj Priest's avatar

A lot of people donโ€™t know this about me, but I spent over 15 yrs in Biotech in the stock market. Once a drug is on the market for so long that it has a generic, the price falls through the ground, so drug companies stop trying to market it outside the original parameters. What they do is create something completely new or mess with the original formula enough, so they can market it under a new name and charge sky high prices for it. Nothing about pharma is on the up and up.

Warmek's avatar

As someone who is only still alive through "off-label" use of ketamine for psychiatric purposes, I'm well aware. Nobody will *ever* do a full FDA study on the use of it for the treatment of severe chronic treatment resistant depression, because nobody could possibly make back the billion dollars it would cost to conduct the study. I don't necessarily blame the drug companies for this, they aren't in the charity business, and so I'm more inclined to blame the FDA. There should *really* be a less expensive route to approval.

Miss Vicki's avatar

because you let yourself go is a top reason. As someone who has been with a married man for 15 years and his wife doesnโ€™t know, I have advice for wives on my substack.

RicoBravo's avatar

All good reasons perhaps why I never got married.

Greg's avatar

Very insightful article

andy's avatar

Communication.

Sure. OK.

(Wasnโ€™t there an โ€œold westโ€ corral by that name?)

The slower "swipe" of high school sweethearts & other ever more bygone conventions sped up to the lickety-splits just-in-time global tech-comms techomps of broโ€™s & sister-queens.

Chompโ€ฆchomp โ€ฆ cue the memory, โ€œeverybody said it was a shameโ€:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSsVvlj6YA&list=RDMCSsVvlj6YA&start_radio=1

More like trying โ€”or notโ€” to outrun the un-outrunnable exploding Ford Pinto gas tanks (& race cars that come apart at the triple-digit seams) that are cheaper to litigate/payoff than to reengineer โ€ฆ yeah, those comms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX9GVAlDvLQ

Race-worn enough, I think, therefore I am, going to counter its not ever been the one thing โ€œcommunication.โ€

What it is & has always been is the starry constellation that goes by the symbol-string โ€œcomprehension.โ€

A more comprehensive communication network residing โ€ฆ everywhere. Even in really good proprioceptive asses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7tYg7gxV5s

First time I heard Adele on the radio she sang of waiting-wading in โ€œdirty water.โ€

But itโ€™s not just in the water.

Itโ€™s in the air.

Itโ€™s in the food.

I

tโ€™s in the communications that are pitched fast & that strike out & Boston bake bean batters.

Which means all of that is in the batters, & the pitchers, & Whoโ€™s On First is damn near everybody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOUFGfK4bU

Itโ€™s base, very base, ball.

Boringest game ever.

But coke it up, that frees the bases, makes it all addictive.

(Can you hear the hor-moans?)

And if a few faces, or even most faces, get burned off โ€”Richard Pryor โ€” hey, thatโ€™s baseball.

A prescription just canโ€™t beat a proscription like that.

But here one is, anyway:

Scrape that odiferous Helen Gurley Brown stuff off your soles โ€ฆ feet & souls.

Because no, you canโ€™t have it all.

Nobody can.

Trying to prove that reality wrong means youโ€™re on drugs.

Exogenous, endogenous, con/sciousness-altering drugs is drugs

(Remember the frying egg image? โ€œThis is your brain on drugs.โ€)

So hereโ€™s Adele belting the tune lie, rolling in the deep doo-doo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOUFGfK4bU

Hereโ€™s Gardenerโ€™s antihero Grendel, the beast, giving lie to the boast that cosmopolitan wo/man is the most:

โ€œO the ultimate evil in the temporal world is deeper than any specific evil, such as hatred, or suffering, or death! The ultimate evil is that Time is perpetual perishing, and being actual involves elimination. The nature of evil may be epitomized, therefore, in two simple but horrible and holy propositions: 'Things fade' and 'Alternatives exclude.' Such is His mystery: that beauty requires contrast, and that discord is fundamental to the creation of new intensities of feeling. Ultimate wisdom, I have come to perceive, lies in the perception that the solemnity and grandeur of the universe rise through the slow process of unification in which the diversities of existence are utilized, and nothing, 'nothing' is lost.โ€

โ€• John Gardner, Grendel

Hereโ€™s Sir Walter Raleigh prison-poeming before his erstwhile pals chopped off his head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHhvKpp2PA0

Another Walter loses the plot, comprehension, his head, & reads โ€œthe sameโ€ poem with newer tech-added ominousness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dpghfRBHE

White Russians & cannibis, โ€œThe Dudeโ€ merely asserts, bowling pin-like, abode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsw0KVRjCM

Decide and abide.

Or continue to let pusher-others do it โ€œforโ€ โ€”toโ€” you.

Whose with me, somewhere other than on first? ๐Ÿ˜€

Lj Priest's avatar

I appreciate you taking the time as a subscriber. The piece wasnโ€™t arguing that โ€˜communicationโ€™ is a magic fix. It was reporting what 103 married men actually said: the marriage went quiet, they stopped feeling wanted, they stopped asking, then they started swiping.

Thatโ€™s a specific pattern, not a philosophy problem. โ€˜Comprehension,โ€™ exploding Pintos, Grendel, and Cosmo feminism donโ€™t answer why a father of six who hired a nanny still hadnโ€™t been touched in four years. If you think the interviews missed the real cause, say what you think the men were actually describing. Iโ€™m listening. Iโ€™m not going to debate whether Time is perpetual perishing.

Trevor's avatar

My ex wife said she wants to get married and divorced one more time saying she would then be set for life. It can be extremely lucrative.

Lj Priest's avatar

There will always be a small soulless percentage who see men only as a dollar sign. Itโ€™s just awful, and I hope karma runs all over her for the pain and devastation she causes.