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Daniel Melgar's avatar

Currently, the Trump administration is hunting for illegal immigrants at various work sites. This of course doesn’t quite fit the narrative that illegal immigrants are in the U.S. for welfare. Likewise, these gainfully employed workers don’t deserve the scorn of the Trump administration for being “rapists and murderers”.

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Patrick D. Caton's avatar

Fair points

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working rich's avatar

You are a victim of the media’s focus on the innocent “ Maryland father.” That caballero is a career hoodlum. The examples cited are the exceptions. All are given the opportunity as well as $$$ to self-deport. The illegals need to shape up, self-deport, and apply to come back. A colleague from India flew through Switzerland to Portugal. His Schengen visa has expired. He was on the next flight back to the USA. No nonsense, no exceptions.

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Don Quixote's avatar

Impractical to change statue of limitations to entry date because how is that proved? If the limit is 5 years, then I say I arrived in December 2019. Amounts to amnesty.

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Don Quixote's avatar

Tom Sowell says the same, adding “only trade-offs.”

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Philip O'Reilly's avatar

It doesn't have to be date of entry, you can prove it by showing you paid taxes for X number of years. I'm sure there are other ways to prove you've been in the country.

If you're in the country and have not contributed to society, I have no problems with deportation. The goal is to find a reasonable compromise between deport everyone and give everyone amnesty.

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Don Quixote's avatar

Begs all sorts of questions about *how* to become legal after X years of knowing illegality. Most may prefer to continue to take their chances and *then* return legally only once actually deported. Especially as a new admin may cater to your needs soon enough.

It *would* be ideal to have an easier policy of beneficial (to the nation) immigration but to date, the parties’ shtick is to use them as pawns for their political agenda.

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Philip O'Reilly's avatar

There's no perfect solution.

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D Knigh's avatar

As a legal immigrant to the US, I look at it differently. I want everyone to stand in line and do the right thing, just as I did. However, if a person came here over 10 years ago starting in January 2025, and during that time has paid income taxes each year, obeyed the law, and can prove that they've contributed to the country (through work, volunteerism, whatever) perhaps they could be given the right to apply for a green card, with the understanding that they will obtain citizenship as soon as legally possible. Any violation of law (excluding minor offenses like speeding) or failure to become a citizen would be met with deportation.

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Philip O'Reilly's avatar

I spent 21 years in the US on various visas so feel much the same way you do.

There has to be a reasonable position between deport everyone and full amnesty for everyone.

It is also important that the border be secured.

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Daniel Melgar's avatar

“I believe in the rule of law and in a nation’s right to enforce its borders and decide who may or may not enter.”

Why? What special powers does any government possess to make these decisions for other individuals?

Why can’t an employer hire qualified employees from other countries?

Why can’t property owners sell to buyers from other countries?

Why do you believe that laws that prohibit voluntary trades are just?

Nations don’t have rights—individuals do. Nations only have the powers that individuals grant them.

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