I’m not a conservative, I’m an independent voter who has voted republican the last few election cycles.
As a broader point to start my opinion on this article, the conservative sphere is not the same as it was before Donald Trump, or even before COVID.
When you described conservatives today, I feel like it applies more to the Bush era, religious right conservative.
Today, many former independent or even democratic voters have turned to conservatism. I don’t believe your assertions truly describe what the right has evolved into.
Secondly, bringing a child into a single parent home and/or having a child before the age of 21 vastly increases their chances of living in poverty. And people that live in poverty do not have equal access to education and are far more likely to commit crimes.
I’m not stating this to judge anyone, just merely stating verifiable facts regarding the cycle of poverty.
As it relates to Musk, there are extreme differences between a wealthy individual having multiple children to women they do not have a relationship with, and a normal citizen.
While they certainly would suffer in regards to living in a household with one parent, Musk’s wealth would ensure, I would assume, that they would never live in poverty, or at least have the resources to avoid living in poverty and experiencing the pitfalls that go along with that.
I appreciate your perspective and I hope to come across more of your work.
Thank you for your input. My work is based on very recent conversations with conservatives on social media regarding how they view Elon Musk and his multiple kid children with different women which is in the eyes of conservatives of creating broken homes and how they receive a working class person with multiple kids and broken homes regardless of income if two parent home is the standard and it’s the standard. It’s many kids who come from Rich backgrounds that are scarred emotionally that turn into drugs and possibly crime
A two parent home is the standard, at last as it pertains to providing a child the best chance at not living in poverty.
The issue isn’t necessarily welfare, it’s what is more likely to happen to said child when living in poverty.
As far as a double standard, while I’ll admit there are republicans that still espouse religious values and apply it to this this particular issue, there are far more people in who identify as conservatives who don’t look at it through that lens.
I have known families that have many children. This inevitably means that the parents must work as a team. One parent may need or choose to work an extraordinary amount of hours so that the other parent will be present to guide and nurture the children.
The welfare state has been a complete and utter failure and is the biggest contributor to the breakdown of the family.
Open your eyes and try to attain some common sense.
There are none so blind , as those ho will not see.
Your argument here seems less about caring for family than caring to score a virtuous point with anti-Eloners, the left, to show that you can be brave in calling out conservatives’ passive acceptance, lo double standard, of Elon Musk’s procreation, familial choices. Common sense has replaced both conservatism and has a legitimate shot at replacing the marxist cronocracy of leftism. You should also be compassionate toward Musk as he is differently abled, neuro-atypical.
Thank you for your honest feedback I will say I’m not about writing articles to score points if it resonates with me I approach it. I will say I do feel part of your sentence proves the double standard because you ask for compassion on Musk because he has Asperger or autism, I believe, but don’t quote me. Shouldn’t that same compassion be extended to a single mother with three kids who may grew up with dyslexia, bipolar etc. my main point is you don’t have to be ultra religious just be consistent.
My point about Elon’s neuro-atpyicalism was sarcastic irony. You have missed the point altogether. There is no such thing as double standards. Please feel free to argue for a two-parent, non-marxist, non-eugenicist family as humankind’s basic building block.
First, I am sure there are many good mothers who are receiving welfare. And I am absolutely sure that there are many nuclear families where children are unhappy for all sorts of reasons. Wedding bells are no guarantee to joy and happiness when it comes to children.
On the other hand, let’s not bury the lead: it is well established that children from two parent homes (married parents) are much more likely to achieve measurable success in their lives compared to children who come from homes with single mothers (just check out the longitudinal studies that are available). Set moral values aside and judge actual results.
Now, if this outrage is really about double standards because your politics leans left and you want to point out the hypocrisy of some billionaire men, let’s take a look at the reality of single mothers who, for whatever reasons, have children they can’t afford versus men like Trump or Musk or other rich baby daddies who can afford to pay for all their children. Do you really what to measure the outcomes of those two groups of children?!
This shouldn’t be about single mothers or immoral rich men. This is the story of generations of children who perpetuate welfare families. The only losers are those children who never had a choice (and their children).
No one—women or men—should bring children into the world they can’t afford to pay for themselves.
Actually I’m center right politically but I’m a independent thinker if someone does something that aligns with my views it’s good no matter where it comes from and if there is hypocrisy then I call it out
Conservatives are generally a pain in the ass, but to say they gave Trump a pass is untrue. They loathed him and many still do. They hate Elon, Lutnick, RFK Jr, ( who has ten children) Tulsi, who has none, Patel ( who has a hot girlfriend)… what they can’t handle is the “ unconventional” . Thing is, they got their asses dragged across the finish line by the “ Coalition of Unconventionals”. And they resent it, but nobody will miss Mitch, Lindsey, Wicker, Rounds, et al.
Elon, Trump, RFK Jr love their children, provide for them and don’t need the money . They’re not grifters getting rich in office.
Elon, RFK Jr, Bessent, Lutnick, McMahon,aren’t taking a penny. No salary, no perqs. They’re doing the job that nobody has done a damn thing about. Purging the toxic waste… and it crosses party lines.
Conservatives of old have typically been very incompassionate toward those who are down and out in society. The "If you're poor, its your own fault" mentality has been the main driver of people's cynicism of this party. Thank you for calling this out because I get put off sometimes with all of the mega corporations that get tax breaks and/or subsides, somtimes in the billions.
I’m not a conservative, I’m an independent voter who has voted republican the last few election cycles.
As a broader point to start my opinion on this article, the conservative sphere is not the same as it was before Donald Trump, or even before COVID.
When you described conservatives today, I feel like it applies more to the Bush era, religious right conservative.
Today, many former independent or even democratic voters have turned to conservatism. I don’t believe your assertions truly describe what the right has evolved into.
Secondly, bringing a child into a single parent home and/or having a child before the age of 21 vastly increases their chances of living in poverty. And people that live in poverty do not have equal access to education and are far more likely to commit crimes.
I’m not stating this to judge anyone, just merely stating verifiable facts regarding the cycle of poverty.
As it relates to Musk, there are extreme differences between a wealthy individual having multiple children to women they do not have a relationship with, and a normal citizen.
While they certainly would suffer in regards to living in a household with one parent, Musk’s wealth would ensure, I would assume, that they would never live in poverty, or at least have the resources to avoid living in poverty and experiencing the pitfalls that go along with that.
I appreciate your perspective and I hope to come across more of your work.
Thank you for your input. My work is based on very recent conversations with conservatives on social media regarding how they view Elon Musk and his multiple kid children with different women which is in the eyes of conservatives of creating broken homes and how they receive a working class person with multiple kids and broken homes regardless of income if two parent home is the standard and it’s the standard. It’s many kids who come from Rich backgrounds that are scarred emotionally that turn into drugs and possibly crime
A two parent home is the standard, at last as it pertains to providing a child the best chance at not living in poverty.
The issue isn’t necessarily welfare, it’s what is more likely to happen to said child when living in poverty.
As far as a double standard, while I’ll admit there are republicans that still espouse religious values and apply it to this this particular issue, there are far more people in who identify as conservatives who don’t look at it through that lens.
I respect your opinion
Ty..again, I appreciate your perspective.
I want to thank everyone for their feedback writing is a journey for me and I appreciate everyone
What a ridiculous article.
Basically repeating the same point over and over.
I have known families that have many children. This inevitably means that the parents must work as a team. One parent may need or choose to work an extraordinary amount of hours so that the other parent will be present to guide and nurture the children.
The welfare state has been a complete and utter failure and is the biggest contributor to the breakdown of the family.
Open your eyes and try to attain some common sense.
There are none so blind , as those ho will not see.
The point of article is in the double standard
Your argument here seems less about caring for family than caring to score a virtuous point with anti-Eloners, the left, to show that you can be brave in calling out conservatives’ passive acceptance, lo double standard, of Elon Musk’s procreation, familial choices. Common sense has replaced both conservatism and has a legitimate shot at replacing the marxist cronocracy of leftism. You should also be compassionate toward Musk as he is differently abled, neuro-atypical.
Thank you for your honest feedback I will say I’m not about writing articles to score points if it resonates with me I approach it. I will say I do feel part of your sentence proves the double standard because you ask for compassion on Musk because he has Asperger or autism, I believe, but don’t quote me. Shouldn’t that same compassion be extended to a single mother with three kids who may grew up with dyslexia, bipolar etc. my main point is you don’t have to be ultra religious just be consistent.
My point about Elon’s neuro-atpyicalism was sarcastic irony. You have missed the point altogether. There is no such thing as double standards. Please feel free to argue for a two-parent, non-marxist, non-eugenicist family as humankind’s basic building block.
lol, no debate just sharing my view but I’m glad you guys are engaged but thanks for your point of view
First, I am sure there are many good mothers who are receiving welfare. And I am absolutely sure that there are many nuclear families where children are unhappy for all sorts of reasons. Wedding bells are no guarantee to joy and happiness when it comes to children.
On the other hand, let’s not bury the lead: it is well established that children from two parent homes (married parents) are much more likely to achieve measurable success in their lives compared to children who come from homes with single mothers (just check out the longitudinal studies that are available). Set moral values aside and judge actual results.
Now, if this outrage is really about double standards because your politics leans left and you want to point out the hypocrisy of some billionaire men, let’s take a look at the reality of single mothers who, for whatever reasons, have children they can’t afford versus men like Trump or Musk or other rich baby daddies who can afford to pay for all their children. Do you really what to measure the outcomes of those two groups of children?!
This shouldn’t be about single mothers or immoral rich men. This is the story of generations of children who perpetuate welfare families. The only losers are those children who never had a choice (and their children).
No one—women or men—should bring children into the world they can’t afford to pay for themselves.
Actually I’m center right politically but I’m a independent thinker if someone does something that aligns with my views it’s good no matter where it comes from and if there is hypocrisy then I call it out
I don’t see hypocrisy. My favorite quote says it best: “Take what you want, and pay for it. Says God.”(from a Spanish proverb)
There are many people who don’t see hypocrisy it’s cool that’s my job to offer a different point of view.
Conservatives are generally a pain in the ass, but to say they gave Trump a pass is untrue. They loathed him and many still do. They hate Elon, Lutnick, RFK Jr, ( who has ten children) Tulsi, who has none, Patel ( who has a hot girlfriend)… what they can’t handle is the “ unconventional” . Thing is, they got their asses dragged across the finish line by the “ Coalition of Unconventionals”. And they resent it, but nobody will miss Mitch, Lindsey, Wicker, Rounds, et al.
Elon, Trump, RFK Jr love their children, provide for them and don’t need the money . They’re not grifters getting rich in office.
Elon, RFK Jr, Bessent, Lutnick, McMahon,aren’t taking a penny. No salary, no perqs. They’re doing the job that nobody has done a damn thing about. Purging the toxic waste… and it crosses party lines.
Conservatives of old have typically been very incompassionate toward those who are down and out in society. The "If you're poor, its your own fault" mentality has been the main driver of people's cynicism of this party. Thank you for calling this out because I get put off sometimes with all of the mega corporations that get tax breaks and/or subsides, somtimes in the billions.
Musk is the ultimate outlier. Any comparison of him on any metric to anybody is a dubious exercise.
It's like comparing apples to nuclear reactors.