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"can a society survive indefinitely without a shared conception of what is good?" Probably not. We just don't know where to draw the line, when to stop as humans - everyone has a different opinion and really, we can only tolerate one another's view to an extent. So many things that started as compassion for fellow humans turned into very slippery slopes - assisted suicide, gay rights, reproductive rights, "free love", etc. As a non-Christian, I wouldn't be comfortable with Christianity as a shared conception. Not that we are taking a poll here, but my vote for shared values would be the Noahide Laws.

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Time did not start in the year A.D. 1, so Smith's phrasing "holding ALL time together" is obviously intended to refer to pre-Christian practices in addition to Christian tradition itself.

This also explains why Smith chooses Christmas specifically, rather than the actual holiest day of the Christian year (= Easter Sunday). Unlike Easter Sunday, which is solely and entirely Christian, Christmas has close ties to ancestral pagan faiths especially in terms of its placement on the calendar.

Jesus, after all, was born in late spring—this is straightforward to prove from the Biblical narratives. (Shepherds lying in the fields all night keeping watch means that it was lambing season, which is mid- to late spring; and Luke 2:1-4 says a Roman census was being taken at the time, which means late spring to early summer.)

But Christmas is in midwinter... because earlier, ancestral new-year celebrations (originally from pagan pre-Christian societies) marked the winter solstice. Early Christians turned the winter solstice into their Christmas celebration, so that they would continue to have that celebration in common with other groups who lived in the same areas. (They also kept the symbolism of a tree to represent new life from the old pagan traditions; this became our modern Christmas tree.)

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