Why is it that most people commit suicide? Could it be that they are shamed so severely by society that they seek to end their pain, whether perceived or actual?
For some, this may be partly causing the desire--most people will do anything to avoid being ostracized. And there is real pain, but I think too those who have survived the desire to "unalive themselves" say that it turned out to be a fleeting passion, and they are glad to have survived.
It's an extremely cultish (and profitable) religion that seeks to free souls from the cage of flesh. There's a very disturbing "better dead than cis" attitude. The fatalities after gender affirmation are a feature, not a bug. The deceased will be silently cooperative martyrs forever. Living people might speak blasphemies such as "sex can't be changed."
Not just detransitioners either. Buck Angel, Blaire White, Markus Dibs, and many other transsexual adults are speaking out strongly against the gender cult, especially the way it targets children.
I am in favor of keeping body and soul together. The colloquial term for this is "staying alive."
If we cut through all the bovine effluent, gender transition is a type of mental illness. If a person were to say, "I want to be a pirate, so I'm going to have a hand cut off and replaced with a hook", such an action would be viewed as bodily mutilation, and the person's mental capacity would be called into question. Yet when a female decides to have her breasts surgically removed, or a male decides to have his genitals surgically removed, such mutilation is viewed by those promoting gender transition, as acceptable and reasonable. Also viewed as acceptable is the desire for gender altering chemistry being applied to adolescents. Obviously, mental illness is spreading even more rapidly than gender transitions. The bottom line is that gender alteration is an illusion and those practicing it are simply pretending to be something they are not..
Why are we so concerned about what someone else decides to do with their body? It is for them alone to decide, no one else. If we were to chose to interfere with other people’s personal decisions, why would that not be any different from when Nazi butchers dissected captive a live prisoners against their will just to document their pain tolerance? Or, the burning of witches at the stake, also against their will just because they exhibit supernatural powers? Or, more recently the execution of government officials in North Korea just because they couldn’t prevent catastrophic flooding in their country? Humans have such a long history of torturing others that the notion they we should have the power to prevent people from purposely changing their bodies seems ludicrous to me. Just because some don’t like what others decide to themselves, how does that allow others to decide instead? I don’t like tattoos or piercings. But, I have never had the desire to tell others that they can’t have it done to them. Whatever happened to the believe in freedom that proclaimed that a person is able to whatever they like unless it has a direct impact on the right for others to be free?
"Gender affirmation" is aggressively marketed as a cure-all to vulnerable adolescents. This is dishonest and does real world harm. Blaming the CHILDREN for falling prey to a slick marketing campaign has nothing to do with supporting bodily autonomy
Aggressively marketed?? Really? Is it “aggressively marketed” like gun violence or mass murder or illicit drugs? There are so many different ways for people to take their own lives that they could be considered as a normalized form of population control if the world were indeed that cynical.
Yes, on all 3 counts. And some folks in power are indeed that cynical. Positions of power (CEO, politician) are disproportionately occupied by psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists. The same folks who call workers "labor units" and infants "products of conception." They're completely good with encouraging the "weak" to remove themselves. Why would someone devoid of empathy NOT do so? It's practical and efficient.
Also horrifying for those of us with a functional empathy system.
I think you've missed the point. The concern is not with what someone else does with his or her body. The concern is with people attempting to promote the same type of butchery you mention on impressionable adolescents. And with biological men competing against actual women. Freedom should absolutely be maintained right up to the point that one person's "freedom" interferes with another person's freedom. You want to change your body? Go for it. Just don't require me to stand and applaud, or to abrogate my freedom.
Faith, thank you for calling this out... The evil in those who would surgically or chemically "gender transition" anyone is beyond belief! One can never change their chromosomes.
I am aghast at the present state of treatment. Normalizing abnormal thought patterns? Are you kidding me? All that does is cut them off from any hope of happiness.
Adolescents are the least vulnerable populations in suicide. Adult men over 40 are the most vulnerable. In fact they commit suicide at twice the rate of adolescents.
I would be very cautious about suicide statements.
That counts teens, as I noted, among the most susceptible. Actual completed suicides is higher among older males, and I believe that's the point you're making. However, given the advisory role of the AAP, their focus must be on at risk groups under their care--a responsibility they've abdicated ever since 2018 and their affirm-only position statement.
Did you happen to see the latest from licensed clinical social worker Pamela Garfield Jaeger? It posted within same week, and is called "Affirmative "Care" Reinforces Suicidality"
I find her emphasis on suicidality and the need to learn to regulate emotions significant in terms of adolescents.
Additionally, when reviewing legal concerns, WPATH was most concerned with the Adolescent Chapter, and I'm guessing this is because this age group is so impressionable and uncertain in how to manage their personal suffering. They can be more readily persuaded than older age groups.
For these reasons, I believe the public is much more shocked on learning the AAP led the push to remove age limits from the SOC8 than even to hear the nonsense Levine spouts about affirmation as suicide prevention. Do you agree?
The best thing about this for the medical industrial complex behind it all is no one files a lawsuit most of the time because they end their lives and are not around to do so, it is no wonder they are fighting so hard to keep it going they must be making so much.
They don't pen their reviews of the Dr. Frankstein surgeons they deal with but they document every moment of it on social media on a day-to-day basis for fans and sponsors to observe their "journey". Some take pics of the urine bags they are dragging around and the mottled scars. With upbeat, energetic, and excited explanations of the raw, gaping, sticky-gauze encrusted, details while always using the phrase "that it was all worth it" which is more like a mantra, but it is well documented. There is an exhibitionistic aspect to it as well as a need to continually induce these procedures as their identity. There are some very established people who have been calling it out for sometime but keep getting dropped by social media.
You provide a very meaningfully detailed (and accurate) account of these young adult women!
I too feel they are performing--feigning masculine toughness in the teeth of surgical complications that are horrific.
@TTExulansic charts their stories to underscore the realities of their gender treatments are terrible. It's a necessary counterweight to all the celebration and mind-numbing influencer recitations of praise for devastating results.
I am an Exulansic junkie and proud patron, I am so happy to see what she is doing despite how many have tried to silence her, I used to work in pediatrics years ago which is why when this all started to happen I began to wonder and I have known more than a few trans people those adjacent to them. Over the years I have noticed somethings about them, not much of it good, it definitely reflects Yarden's statements. I am not familiar with her but her account is something I have seen play out in front of me more than a few times in the lives others I have known; I tried to be open minded and understanding but their reality kept being way too obvious for me to ignore. I still feel sorry for them in a very different way, it is too bad there isn't much real mental health that will really help these people.
This sounds like cried for attention to me. I thought about this a few days ago after the recent school mass shooting in Georgia. Yet another teenager who couldn’t deal with the pressures of modern society and apparently refused professional help that could have taught him how to deal with societal pressures without resorting to violence against himself or others.
Learning how to develop a moral compass in one’s personal life seems to be very lacking today. Perhaps that process needs to be studied in greater detail. Perhaps then the responsibility of parents, religious leaders, even school teachers needs to be addressed so that those who can influence others against such anti-social behaviors is possible. With emphasis on individual responsibility towards one’s self and to those around them. But, as long as killing the enemy in warfare is justified, humanity will always have a problem civilians thinking that it is ok to kill their perceived or actual personal enemies. It should never become “normalized” though, that society looks the other way like we tend to do about warriors killing each other for glory or treasure.
It is a total cry for attention, that kid in Georgia never had a chance, it is no wonder he did what he did, his mom was always in some situation with law enforcement regarding hard drugs. Most of it is parents and home everything else is second but people don't like to hear this, they want to blame someone else but most kids do fine if they have stable parents at home and structure and bounce back from things when that is their environment. It sounds easier said than done. We can't make adults be better parents but it would be nice if someone would.
Stable parents at home requires three major shifts:
1. Economic shifts such that a single income can support a family.
2. Social shifts to re-normalize the expectation that children will (mostly) be born to married couples.
3. Philosophical shifts away from hedonistic individualism and towards responsible mutual interdependence. This includes acknowledging that the value of work is unrelated to whether it can or should be managed through economic exchange. It includes a renewed respect for boundaries. It includes a renewed respect for the concept of legacy.
All of these must happen on a large scale if you want "stable parents at home" to become a norm instead of an anomaly.
Stability isn't an anomaly, yet. In the good old days there were plenty of screwed up people raising kids, we just didn't talk about it much or at all. Socially you faced castigation if you didn't follow the rules. We also had institutions to put people in if they had problems. People are starting to figure some of this out. It doesn't have to be an immediate large scale for it to change. Most of these things start out small and grow.
good point--their propped up spokesperson given high sounding title and authority to puppet the "quite literally" point so they can stick it even further into the uncertain and frazzled parents of the day
Why is it that most people commit suicide? Could it be that they are shamed so severely by society that they seek to end their pain, whether perceived or actual?
For some, this may be partly causing the desire--most people will do anything to avoid being ostracized. And there is real pain, but I think too those who have survived the desire to "unalive themselves" say that it turned out to be a fleeting passion, and they are glad to have survived.
That's the story. That's the narrative. That's not the pattern I have observed among those who have actually died by suicide.
Well presented, Faith.
Best response I can give is something I already wrote, which was published at Wrong Speak in May 2023:
https://zephareth.substack.com/p/issues-with-trans-issues
Terrific article. ZL
It's an extremely cultish (and profitable) religion that seeks to free souls from the cage of flesh. There's a very disturbing "better dead than cis" attitude. The fatalities after gender affirmation are a feature, not a bug. The deceased will be silently cooperative martyrs forever. Living people might speak blasphemies such as "sex can't be changed."
Not just detransitioners either. Buck Angel, Blaire White, Markus Dibs, and many other transsexual adults are speaking out strongly against the gender cult, especially the way it targets children.
I am in favor of keeping body and soul together. The colloquial term for this is "staying alive."
it’s especially convenient so many of them disappear from doctor’s view
If we cut through all the bovine effluent, gender transition is a type of mental illness. If a person were to say, "I want to be a pirate, so I'm going to have a hand cut off and replaced with a hook", such an action would be viewed as bodily mutilation, and the person's mental capacity would be called into question. Yet when a female decides to have her breasts surgically removed, or a male decides to have his genitals surgically removed, such mutilation is viewed by those promoting gender transition, as acceptable and reasonable. Also viewed as acceptable is the desire for gender altering chemistry being applied to adolescents. Obviously, mental illness is spreading even more rapidly than gender transitions. The bottom line is that gender alteration is an illusion and those practicing it are simply pretending to be something they are not..
Why are we so concerned about what someone else decides to do with their body? It is for them alone to decide, no one else. If we were to chose to interfere with other people’s personal decisions, why would that not be any different from when Nazi butchers dissected captive a live prisoners against their will just to document their pain tolerance? Or, the burning of witches at the stake, also against their will just because they exhibit supernatural powers? Or, more recently the execution of government officials in North Korea just because they couldn’t prevent catastrophic flooding in their country? Humans have such a long history of torturing others that the notion they we should have the power to prevent people from purposely changing their bodies seems ludicrous to me. Just because some don’t like what others decide to themselves, how does that allow others to decide instead? I don’t like tattoos or piercings. But, I have never had the desire to tell others that they can’t have it done to them. Whatever happened to the believe in freedom that proclaimed that a person is able to whatever they like unless it has a direct impact on the right for others to be free?
"Gender affirmation" is aggressively marketed as a cure-all to vulnerable adolescents. This is dishonest and does real world harm. Blaming the CHILDREN for falling prey to a slick marketing campaign has nothing to do with supporting bodily autonomy
i.e. they supposedly exercise their “informed” consent
Aggressively marketed?? Really? Is it “aggressively marketed” like gun violence or mass murder or illicit drugs? There are so many different ways for people to take their own lives that they could be considered as a normalized form of population control if the world were indeed that cynical.
Yes, on all 3 counts. And some folks in power are indeed that cynical. Positions of power (CEO, politician) are disproportionately occupied by psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists. The same folks who call workers "labor units" and infants "products of conception." They're completely good with encouraging the "weak" to remove themselves. Why would someone devoid of empathy NOT do so? It's practical and efficient.
Also horrifying for those of us with a functional empathy system.
I think you've missed the point. The concern is not with what someone else does with his or her body. The concern is with people attempting to promote the same type of butchery you mention on impressionable adolescents. And with biological men competing against actual women. Freedom should absolutely be maintained right up to the point that one person's "freedom" interferes with another person's freedom. You want to change your body? Go for it. Just don't require me to stand and applaud, or to abrogate my freedom.
Faith, thank you for calling this out... The evil in those who would surgically or chemically "gender transition" anyone is beyond belief! One can never change their chromosomes.
I am aghast at the present state of treatment. Normalizing abnormal thought patterns? Are you kidding me? All that does is cut them off from any hope of happiness.
Adolescents are the least vulnerable populations in suicide. Adult men over 40 are the most vulnerable. In fact they commit suicide at twice the rate of adolescents.
I would be very cautious about suicide statements.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States#:~:text=From%202000%20to%202020%2C%20more,at%2014.3%20per%20100%2C000%20persons.
We agree on the need for caution, and I know you also research the issue constantly, Sufeitzy. Here's a statement from a government MH agency:
"Suicide was the second leading cause of death among individuals between the ages of 10-14 according to the National Institute of Mental Health https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide
That counts teens, as I noted, among the most susceptible. Actual completed suicides is higher among older males, and I believe that's the point you're making. However, given the advisory role of the AAP, their focus must be on at risk groups under their care--a responsibility they've abdicated ever since 2018 and their affirm-only position statement.
Did you happen to see the latest from licensed clinical social worker Pamela Garfield Jaeger? It posted within same week, and is called "Affirmative "Care" Reinforces Suicidality"
https://substack.com/@pamthetruthfultherapist/p-148433727
I find her emphasis on suicidality and the need to learn to regulate emotions significant in terms of adolescents.
Additionally, when reviewing legal concerns, WPATH was most concerned with the Adolescent Chapter, and I'm guessing this is because this age group is so impressionable and uncertain in how to manage their personal suffering. They can be more readily persuaded than older age groups.
For these reasons, I believe the public is much more shocked on learning the AAP led the push to remove age limits from the SOC8 than even to hear the nonsense Levine spouts about affirmation as suicide prevention. Do you agree?
The best thing about this for the medical industrial complex behind it all is no one files a lawsuit most of the time because they end their lives and are not around to do so, it is no wonder they are fighting so hard to keep it going they must be making so much.
Yes, tragically, so many are --conveniently--unable even to pen a review of their botched surgeries
They don't pen their reviews of the Dr. Frankstein surgeons they deal with but they document every moment of it on social media on a day-to-day basis for fans and sponsors to observe their "journey". Some take pics of the urine bags they are dragging around and the mottled scars. With upbeat, energetic, and excited explanations of the raw, gaping, sticky-gauze encrusted, details while always using the phrase "that it was all worth it" which is more like a mantra, but it is well documented. There is an exhibitionistic aspect to it as well as a need to continually induce these procedures as their identity. There are some very established people who have been calling it out for sometime but keep getting dropped by social media.
You provide a very meaningfully detailed (and accurate) account of these young adult women!
I too feel they are performing--feigning masculine toughness in the teeth of surgical complications that are horrific.
@TTExulansic charts their stories to underscore the realities of their gender treatments are terrible. It's a necessary counterweight to all the celebration and mind-numbing influencer recitations of praise for devastating results.
p.s. Have you heard of Yarden? https://x.com/sanityexxs/status/1766648029417807913/photo/1
I am an Exulansic junkie and proud patron, I am so happy to see what she is doing despite how many have tried to silence her, I used to work in pediatrics years ago which is why when this all started to happen I began to wonder and I have known more than a few trans people those adjacent to them. Over the years I have noticed somethings about them, not much of it good, it definitely reflects Yarden's statements. I am not familiar with her but her account is something I have seen play out in front of me more than a few times in the lives others I have known; I tried to be open minded and understanding but their reality kept being way too obvious for me to ignore. I still feel sorry for them in a very different way, it is too bad there isn't much real mental health that will really help these people.
This sounds like cried for attention to me. I thought about this a few days ago after the recent school mass shooting in Georgia. Yet another teenager who couldn’t deal with the pressures of modern society and apparently refused professional help that could have taught him how to deal with societal pressures without resorting to violence against himself or others.
Learning how to develop a moral compass in one’s personal life seems to be very lacking today. Perhaps that process needs to be studied in greater detail. Perhaps then the responsibility of parents, religious leaders, even school teachers needs to be addressed so that those who can influence others against such anti-social behaviors is possible. With emphasis on individual responsibility towards one’s self and to those around them. But, as long as killing the enemy in warfare is justified, humanity will always have a problem civilians thinking that it is ok to kill their perceived or actual personal enemies. It should never become “normalized” though, that society looks the other way like we tend to do about warriors killing each other for glory or treasure.
It is a total cry for attention, that kid in Georgia never had a chance, it is no wonder he did what he did, his mom was always in some situation with law enforcement regarding hard drugs. Most of it is parents and home everything else is second but people don't like to hear this, they want to blame someone else but most kids do fine if they have stable parents at home and structure and bounce back from things when that is their environment. It sounds easier said than done. We can't make adults be better parents but it would be nice if someone would.
Stable parents at home requires three major shifts:
1. Economic shifts such that a single income can support a family.
2. Social shifts to re-normalize the expectation that children will (mostly) be born to married couples.
3. Philosophical shifts away from hedonistic individualism and towards responsible mutual interdependence. This includes acknowledging that the value of work is unrelated to whether it can or should be managed through economic exchange. It includes a renewed respect for boundaries. It includes a renewed respect for the concept of legacy.
All of these must happen on a large scale if you want "stable parents at home" to become a norm instead of an anomaly.
Stability isn't an anomaly, yet. In the good old days there were plenty of screwed up people raising kids, we just didn't talk about it much or at all. Socially you faced castigation if you didn't follow the rules. We also had institutions to put people in if they had problems. People are starting to figure some of this out. It doesn't have to be an immediate large scale for it to change. Most of these things start out small and grow.
Agreed! Thats why those who implore advertising to prey on the innocence of children is and always should be illegal and immoral.
It used to just be “like,suicide prevention.“ Now it’s “quite lit’rally… suicide prevention.”
good point--their propped up spokesperson given high sounding title and authority to puppet the "quite literally" point so they can stick it even further into the uncertain and frazzled parents of the day