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I'm a conservative republican who happily acknowledges that the particular political tradition that I wish to "conserve" is for the most part Classical Liberalism. I do not criticize leftists by calling them 'Liberal', I criticize them for pushing theories and policies that are actively ILLIBERAL. I do not regard "Progressives" as 'Liberal' in any sense other than that they misappropriated the label when their rightful name was badly discredited by their public failures.

By the same metric though, I also disagree with the way you have likewise employed a meaning of 'Democracy' that has similarly experienced dramatic conceptual drift from its origins as a political concept. What we have in the West today would certainly not qualify as "Democracy" by the standards of Plato. Indeed, our sole concession to that ancient conception is our jury selection, as the only feature of our society that still uses sortition to select common people to act in an official capacity. Nor, by the writings of the Founders, was the United States ever intended to be a "Democracy". They drew a meaningful distinction between a "Democracy" and a "Republic", writing at great length about the dangers and flaws of Democracy, a distinction that you have erased by treating a Constitutional Republic as merely a subtype of Representative Democracy rather than a separate system altogether that deliberately has both democratic and anti-democratic elements.

You've likewise rather stretched somewhat absurdly to present a false "both sides" picture, when it's pretty much entirely the Left that's attempting to remove and replace Classical Liberalism. Your examples are informative in this regard: "dictator for even one day" is clear hyperbole, not an actual attempt to subvert the governing structure like court packing. Sorry, but EVERY campaign makes "On Day 1" promises and Trump's rhetoric on this regard still falls short of his predecessor's "I don't have the Authority, but if Congress won't act, I will!" "I have a pen and a phone." Obama who largely ushered in the era of an Imperial Presidency and Biden having likewise been constantly rebuked by the courts for exceeding his authority. Worse, you've actively misrepresented the position of Classical Liberalism on both "prayer in schools" specifically and moral education in schools in general. Classical Liberalism opposed restricting the religious freedoms of others, the idea that a Teacher or students would not be permitted to voluntarily pray at school would be regarded negatively as imposing a religious test and oppressing both Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Association.

Plato, as later Rousseau, believes that once political society is properly ordered, it can contribute to the restoration of morals. A good political order, good education and upbringing can produce “good natures; and [these] useful natures, who are in turn well educated, grow up even better than their predecessors”

Locke did not contradict this. Education, which Locke felt should address both character and intellect, is therefore best achieved by providing the pupil with examples of proper thought and behaviour, by training the child to witness and share in the habits of virtue that are part of the conventional wisdom of the rational and practical man.

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John T's avatar

The USA is a constitutional republic. It isn't a liberal democracy. Majority of politicians on both sides of the aisle call it a democracy, but it isn't. There are many democratic form of governments, but we aren't one of them.

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